Mr. Pat Martin: We suspect strongly that many of these contracting firms were involved in an elaborate scheme, a premeditated scheme, to defraud the Canadian taxpayer. Did you have any inkling there was perhaps something untoward going on with the awarding of these contracts?
M. Pat Martin : Nous sommes pratiquement convaincus que beaucoup de ces sociétés contractantes prenaient part à un savant stratagème, à une ruse bien combinée, pour frauder les contribuables canadiens.